Ouroboros. © Valve Corporation. The speed isn't too bad, either. Zweihander wins every time for its knowndown ability.
Claymore swings faster and has a faster weapon art animation to break enemy guards but the Zweihander, throwing people in the air with an oversized weapon can be very satisfying. If you like the thrusting attacks, obviously stick with the regular Halberd. Ultra greatswords you know that your opponent will die before you will if you just keep on the relentless offensive. only surpassed by the Marakumo imo..
True? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Seems to be working great for me so far but I'd love a bit of insight from someone who knows. Both suck. Zwei has some crazy phantom range. Most players use the weapons in a very similar manner offensively, the difference in the weapons is really in defensive play. In most builds Zweihander just ends up with bigger numbers because of it. I don't believe the same mentality should be use when using typical greatswords. I just began a new character (knight class) and I'm going to use one, or possibly both.
What are they? Zweihander can get pretty strong easily and can serve you quite well throughout the game. This is just a general opinion about the weapon classes. Most players use the weapons in a very similar manner offensively, the difference in the weapons is really in defensive play. Español - Latinoamérica (Spanish - Latin America). It has great reach and decent damage for the weight along with relatively low stat requirements. joemann Casual Posts: 42 Reputation: 5 Join date: 2012-09-21. All rights reserved. Having major problems deciding which to use. However, especially for PvP or against fast bosses, it has a downside- if you don't land a hit, you go through a stagger animation in which you're totally vulnerable. Hey guys. Claymore's upgrade path and attack strength is weaker than Bastard Sword. Due to this, every other game out there is so extremely disappointing. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. zwei with chaos, bringing back the base cannon. Well, yeah. So I could never wreck someone with it. DARK SOULS™: Prepare To Die Edition > General Discussions > Topic Details. Maybe run through most mobs with the claymore quickly, then switch when you need the damage :P. Thanks for the reply.
Wins every times against dumb computer opponents.Wins you backstab every time you use it against human players. In PvP against person who can roll-BS, parry and toggle escape Claymore is better. In PvE zwei is almost always superior, because you can stun nearly everything on first hit, range is better and R2 is very good because nice range and enemies don't dodge it. Why do i always hear about the zweihander and not the claymore? I'll give the claymore a go this time around and see how it matches up. It's fast and powerful, with very strong critical hits. For ultra greatswords on that build, I still use the Greatsword instead of the zwei for the same reason (GS + leo ring is *nice*) For the vast majority of PvE, all that power in the zwei isn't necessary, imho. If you're getting darkwraiths with that, you're fighting shitty or overconfident darkwraiths...or you're obscenely good with it, of course. lots and lots of people use the claymore. zweihander is a full commitment weapon, claymore is maybe a bit more forgiving and has a more versatile moveset, tradeoff is lower range, less poise break and less damage. Claymore and zweihander are like sibling swords in a lot of ways, both have good rates at which they break guard. Claymore - The Claymore deserves mention because 16 Strength/10 Dexterity is just enough to use Claymore 1-handed, meaning the stats don't need to be modified. The Claymore is like a mini-Zweihander; it's not as strong as the Zwei, but it's still powerful when … Whenever I try to use the Zweihander it hits the floor even when I meet the strength requirement.
I love the halberd myself. In PvP, I see more people using the Gargoyle's Halberd than the normal Halberd, and even more people using the Great Scythe. A community dedicated to Dark Souls I, game released for PC, PlayStation 3 and 4, Xbox 360/One, and Switch (Remastered). © Valve Corporation. Makes sense. I'm sure it's true... the Zwei's reach still catches me by surprise in PvP :P Always an unpleasant surprise when it does lol. Greatswords combine the idea of being able to press an immediately deadly offensive with the option of mounting a defense if needed. Truthfully both weapons are really fucking good. Post n°1; Zweihander vs claymore. 40+ Claymore). While it has slightly lower scaling for Dex, Zweihander has much higher base damage. Why/why not. Press J to jump to the feed.
But the damage of the Zwei is so much better (27 more base damage) and not to mention the incredible stagger/stun potential of the Zwei. Jul 12, 2013 @ 4:47am Claymore VS Zweihander PVE Hey guys. Additionally the claymore 1h r1 has nice horizontal slashes capable of dead angles, like the zweihander's r1.
Another thing is that the Zweihander seems to scale better than the Claymore for me (49+ Zwei. I keep seeing dead angles. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. I think of sword classes this way: Straight swords combat is equal parts defense as it is offense and you are likely to need multiple rounds of offense to defeat an enemy. No other game is even as close to as interesting, exciting, and has the same replay ability as dark souls. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. You always hear about the zweihander because it is pretty much the stuff of legend since a certain fatherly build. The key is to time the R2 right, because you have to account for a 'delay', so I usually press it a bit before actual enemy contact happens.
DARK SOULS™ III. I was adviced to go claymore and I really, really like its moveset. So much so that they nerfed the greatsword R1 speeds actually, and it's STILL really decent. If you're not great with your halberd, it'll get you killed. Having major problems deciding which to use. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Español - Latinoamérica (Spanish - Latin America).
This is the case for most if not all greatsword vs ultra greatsword debates.
they are both very solid weapons, it's down to preference and playstyle. But I prefer the Zwei 2H alot because of its looong reach. It's one of the weapons with the best movesets and you need very little stats invested to use it. The halberd tends to be seen as an amazing PvE weapon due to its high damage (when upgraded) and high rate of attack for a weapon that does such high damage. Besides, Zweihander is better than all those weapon mentioned. It's okay. Im still a noob but i definetly "feel" the claymore is better. Dark Souls General Discussion; Zweihander vs claymore. The claymore is one of the most overused weapons in the game. joemann.
I recommend you wait until you get Black Knight Sword or Black Knight Greatsword and use that instead. I was adviced to go claymore and I really, really like its moveset. Note: Each weapon is unique and has inherit flaws and advantages you need to consider. by joemann on Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:49 pm. All rights reserved.
But I feel the Claymore's thrust is shorter? For Dark Souls on the PlayStation 3, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Claymore Vs. Zweihander". If you can break their poise, you can easily get over 1k damage in a couple hits. Nothing that slow is good otherwise. Which of these is better for a lvl 99 build? i literally just got wrecked by a person using a claymore while in the middle of writing this. This is the case for most if not all greatsword vs ultra greatsword debates. Btw it might just be an illusion on my side. I ONLY use it's R2 attack, and this stuns bosses in 2-4 hits, and knocksdown everything else (darkwraiths don't have a chance). The poise breaking, which is what is relevant for bosses, is the same for all attacks I think. I have used the claymore as well, but I have much more fun with Zwei. This isn't a big deal to some, but for blades I feel like I'm missing something without a simple (as opposed to rolling) thrust attack.. that and the quicker speed and lighter weight (gave more options for equipment) made the claymore the choice for me. Additionally the claymore 1h r1 has nice horizontal slashes capable of dead angles, like the zweihander's r1. For now just use Exile Greatsword. Typically with ultra greatswords it is legitimately a valid question to ask yourself if it is worth trading a blow with the opponent.
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